I did a video on the recent VidCon drama between Anita Sarkeesian, a noted third-wave
feminist and executive director of Feminist Frequency and Carl “Sargon of Akkad”
Benjamin, as well as her later confrontation with boogie2988. I also stated that I prefer to keep politics
out of my alter-ego here, but the truth is that this deals with entertainment
as well, and unfortunately politics will sometimes overlap with my hobbies and
ideals. So I’m going to get this out of
the way: politically, I’m more moderate, though I find myself more
right-of-center. That does not mean I’m
a Republican or die-hard conservative in American politics. Far from it.
While I don’t subscribe to identity politics in the slightest, I
recognize that in some instances it can
have an effect necessary to change wrongs, and I fully support equality of the
races and sexes, as well as orientations.
To that end, I support religious freedom, but also items such as gay
marriage. I am on record with my most
recent college as having penned an article supporting gay marriage from a
conservative standpoint (the conservative tag added mainly by the paper), and
the like. With that said, I am against
third-wave feminism as well as ‘intersectionality’. They are both toxic to the discussions at
hand, but that is neither here, nor there.
I find that often, I can get my point across easier through writing rather than speaking. I also find that even with a long post, people are more apt to pay attention to it rather than when I talk, because let’s face it my voice can be rather annoying. That, and I’m not photogenic in the slightest. Oh well! With that being said, I want to expound upon the video, and give what I hope is a more focused and well-thought-out view on what happened, as well as what to expect.
I find that often, I can get my point across easier through writing rather than speaking. I also find that even with a long post, people are more apt to pay attention to it rather than when I talk, because let’s face it my voice can be rather annoying. That, and I’m not photogenic in the slightest. Oh well! With that being said, I want to expound upon the video, and give what I hope is a more focused and well-thought-out view on what happened, as well as what to expect.
The Players: A Dispassionate
Explanation
Anita
Sarkeesian is a noted third-wave feminist, whose webseries “Tropes
vs. Women” deals mainly with several issues that she feels are damaging to
women in the entertainment industry: objectification and oversexualization of
women, especially in video games; a lack of “strong women” in video games; and
the “damsel in distress” common to some games (Princess Peach, for example). She made headlines in August 2014 when she
claimed significant harassment and death threats, especially as the Gamergate
controversy began to take hold and ramp up.
This allegedly peaked in October 2014, when Ms. Sarkeesian was scheduled
to speak at Utah State University: several threats were made, and while
university officials scoffed at it as ‘similar harassment she normally recieves’,
Anita ended up cancelling the speech, citing security concerns because of the
possibility of concealed weapons on campus.
Carl
“Sargon of Akkad” Benjamin is a British YouTuber known for his
videos focusing on third-wave feminism and ‘social justice issues’ as well as
his ‘skeptic’ nature, namely in that he criticizes social justice ‘warriors’. He primarily rose to fame during the
Gamergate controversy, and has since been highly critical not only of Anita
Sarkeesian, but many others as well (including Shaun King and Deray Mackesson
of Black Lives Matter fame, among others).
Beyond that, he has other channels dedicated to gaming (as he is a game
developer), and “Ancient Recitations”, in which numerous audiobooks of various historical
texts from Greek antiquity and ancient Near East are featured. He has taken criticism for his positions, as
well as his 2017 position in support of PewDiePie, a YouTuber who was targeted
in a Wall Street Journal piece for alleged anti-Semitic and Nazi videos, which
were widely regarded as ‘jokes’, even by some of his detractors. He regularly hosts livestreams with other
well-known skeptics and personalities critical of third-wave feminism and
social justice ‘warriors’.
Steven “Boogie2988” Williams is a YouTuber known for his rants on video games, as well as ‘unboxings’ of trading cards including Magic: the Gathering and Pokemon. His focus, while on entertainment, is also on health (both mental and physical). His created persona, “Francis”, pardodies what is referred to as “nerd culture” is quite popular. Videos, as stated, range from discussion on recent video game and entertainment news, to serious topics such as his health.
Steven “Boogie2988” Williams is a YouTuber known for his rants on video games, as well as ‘unboxings’ of trading cards including Magic: the Gathering and Pokemon. His focus, while on entertainment, is also on health (both mental and physical). His created persona, “Francis”, pardodies what is referred to as “nerd culture” is quite popular. Videos, as stated, range from discussion on recent video game and entertainment news, to serious topics such as his health.
It should be noted that there are also ancillary
people who should be mentioned, as well as what VidCon is.
VidCon
is an annual convention held in Southern California and previously hosted at
the Hyatt Regency Century Plaza, and now at the Anaheim Convention Center. It’s focus is on ‘content creators’,
personalities who have cultivated a following, usually on the website YouTube.
Hank
and John Green are the founders of VidCon, and YouTube
personalities in their own right via the channel Vlogbrothers.
The Incidents
The first incident
occurred on 22 June, when Anita Sarkeesian and several other women were part of
a panel titled “Women Online Discussion”.
Carl Benjamin as well as several other known YouTube personalities
critical of what they refer to as the ‘victim complex’ of third-wave feminists
attended. Towards the beginning of the
panel, Anita Sarkeesian is quoted as saying the following:
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“If you Google my name on YouTube you get
shitheads like this dude who are making these dumbass videos that just say the
same shit over and over again; and like I hate to give you attention because
you’re a garbage human being. Whatever
dude.”
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Anita was specifically
motioning and speaking about Carl. She
went on to say:
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“But the fact that these dudes are making
endless videos going after every feminist over and over and over again I think
is a part of the issue. Why do we have
these conversations? We don’t just get
to be online. We don’t just get to participate
like everyone else.”
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It should be noted that
Carl and the others who attended with him were paying members of the audience,
and had been quiet the entire time.
Video evidence shows this to be the case. From a logical, dispassionate viewpoint,
there seems to be no reason for Anita, using her position on the stage, to call
out and insult members of the audience, critics or not. They had done nothing to warrant such
treatment. In fact, those who were with
Carl say that he said nothing until targeted, in which he responded that he
just ‘wanted to talk’. This was a
violation of VidCon’s harassment policy (more on that in a bit).
It could be argued that
more incidents occurred during the “question and answer” portion of the panel,
where several audience members (none of which were Carl) asked questions
specifically of Anita, including one asking her if she truly believed what she
said/wrote. Anita was hostile and
demanded security remove anyone from the line who asked similar questions, or
questions that were deemed ‘confrontational’.
The second incident occurred on 24 June after a panel titled “End Cyberbullying”. During the closing remarks of the panel, Steven Williams said that cyberbullying wasn’t a “womens’ rights issue, it’s a human rights issue”, apparently angering Anita Sarkeesian, a co-panelist. Afterwards, Anita allegedly cornered him, and said something along the lines of, “I think it was very fucking uncool what you said there at the end, knowing no one else would have time to respond.” This incident hasn’t received as much press as the Anita/Carl incident, mainly because it was captured on video, while Anita’s alleged attack on Williams was not.
The second incident occurred on 24 June after a panel titled “End Cyberbullying”. During the closing remarks of the panel, Steven Williams said that cyberbullying wasn’t a “womens’ rights issue, it’s a human rights issue”, apparently angering Anita Sarkeesian, a co-panelist. Afterwards, Anita allegedly cornered him, and said something along the lines of, “I think it was very fucking uncool what you said there at the end, knowing no one else would have time to respond.” This incident hasn’t received as much press as the Anita/Carl incident, mainly because it was captured on video, while Anita’s alleged attack on Williams was not.
Critical Responses and The Fallout
Here’s where I drop the wholly informational explanations
and start juxtaposing my own thoughts.
Following the videos surfacing of Anita attacking Sargon and his friends
(I’m referring to them as the “Sargontourage” from now on, sorry Carl!),
opinion was mixed. Many who were
critical of Anita doubled down and said she was the bully she always claimed to
be fighting and they knew her to be, and that her position of power (the stage
and microphone) turned her into the privileged individual, while Sargon was
powerless in this instance to halt or prevent the attacks that occurred. Others who supported Anita claimed that the
Sargontourage’s presence in the first three rows of what was widely viewed as
an empty auditorium was harassment enough and her response was understandable. In fact, Hank Green penned a response to the
drama which I will get to in a moment. I’m
firmly on the side of the former and not the latter, not because I view Sargon
as incapable of defending himself from such attacks, but because the evidence
shows it to have been purely unprovoked, and that her actions were detrimental
to the causes she claims to fight for.
Her outburst and her language were not in keeping with what was expected
of a panelist, let alone what should have been a professional appearance. She allowed emotion to cloud her judgment,
and whether it’s because she wanted to say what she did and not give him a
chance to respond, hoping for a “mic drop” moment or because she legitimately
was “triggered” by his presence and had an uncontrollable urge to defend
herself from what she viewed as harassment is anyone’s guess. Going by her past actions and words, and her
attempts to play the victim for years I am strongly erring towards her trying
to have that moment, and not because of any actual perceived threat from their
presence. I will admit, however, there
is also the possibility that Anita
and others like her have allowed this victim complex to so take hold of their
lives for years that it has become a significant part of their psyche, and that
they are incapable without professional help of losing this mindset. That is also a theory I would subscribe
to. In general, I don’t believe she felt
she was threatened by their presence, she didn’t feel harassed.
On the Boogie2988 incident, my opinion (assuming this
entire thing has been offered without embellishment from the multiple sources
who provide it) is that this was her acting a bully, which is ironic
considering she had just finished a panel on ending cyberbullying. However, lacking evidence, I can only assume
this to have happened. Many took to
Reddit and YouTube to support Boogie, with many (myself included) referring to
the attack on him as the “moral equivalent of kicking puppies in front of
kindergartners”. Boogie is a gentle
giant, he seems like a genuinely caring man.
He hasn’t been confrontational, and says that he intentionally crafted
his talking points in a way so that he wouldn’t offend or upset anyone,
especially Anita. He spent days doing
this, ran it by several people (including a co-panelist) to see if there was
any way someone could be offended.
Because he suffers from severe anxiety and he has had issues with Anita
in the past (or, at the very least has not supported her viewpoints), he was
especially nervous about dealing with her.
Again, she was in the wrong, and attacking someone for his opinion in
such a way is unacceptable, no matter who it is.
VidCon ended up posting a response to the entire
incident. In part, it read:
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“This year, we had a contingent of attendees (some who paid, some who snuck
in with fake passes) who had been either perpetrators of this harassment, or
had, for years, watched as the outrage they cultivated resulted in followers
doxxing, harassing, intimidating, and even threatening the lives of the
creators on these panels.
"It is difficult to imagine that this group of people (who are aware that their channels have been base-camps for years of harassment of some of our panelists) did not realize that their arriving early to fill up the three front rows of a panel was going to be intimidating. In any case, it looked like intentional intimidation to most people in attendance, and the panelists were understandably on edge throughout the discussion.
During the panel, a panelist called out one of the audience members for being someone who has made her life very difficult, and wished she didn’t have to give him attention because he was a “garbage human.” Look, we don’t want our panelists to insult our audience members, even when we completely understand that the comment exists in a much broader (and pretty messed up) context. Even when people have said hateful things that everyone in our office disagrees with, we have a policy, and it exists not just to protect people at the show, but to protect our ability to have these conversations.”
"It is difficult to imagine that this group of people (who are aware that their channels have been base-camps for years of harassment of some of our panelists) did not realize that their arriving early to fill up the three front rows of a panel was going to be intimidating. In any case, it looked like intentional intimidation to most people in attendance, and the panelists were understandably on edge throughout the discussion.
During the panel, a panelist called out one of the audience members for being someone who has made her life very difficult, and wished she didn’t have to give him attention because he was a “garbage human.” Look, we don’t want our panelists to insult our audience members, even when we completely understand that the comment exists in a much broader (and pretty messed up) context. Even when people have said hateful things that everyone in our office disagrees with, we have a policy, and it exists not just to protect people at the show, but to protect our ability to have these conversations.”
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It goes on to say that
Hank Green informed her that her comments had violated VidCon’s policy on
harassing attendees or panelists, but that looking at it from a broader contect
he was understanding. He also apologized
for not being aware of the situation before the event, “which resulted in her
being subjected to a hostile environment that she had not signed up for.”
So, Hank chastised her, but it didn’t mean a damn thing because he apologized after. This brings up the question: why? Why would he apologize, when the evidence shows her to be in the wrong? I think their response actually gives us an insight into why. The beginning of the post states the following when talking about people who are invited: “They just aren’t on our radar because we were looking in the wrong place, or they got very popular very recently.”
Speaking to that, I believe that they are intentionally ignoring members of what is dubbed the “skeptic community”, and those critical of third-wave feminism and social justice/intersectionality. This is shown by their list of creators invited, among them noted social justice ‘warriors’ such as Anita Sarkeesian, as well as Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasperian from The Young Turks. Notably, aside from Philip DeFranco there seems to be no one of significance that has been skeptical of feminism in particular as part of the featured creators (note: I did a cursory glance of the invited people, and no one struck me as being part of that clique). This has me asking why that is, of course. If it’s an ideological issue, then that’s understandable why they wouldn’t be asked to attend as featured creators. I mean, it’s not like Sargon’s channel popped up overnight and became popular this past week or something, he’s been known about for five or six years now. His channel has 655,516 subscribers, a number that I can only dream about (then again, if I was more consistent in putting out quality products…maybe one day!). MundaneMatt wasn’t invited, hell even someone like Thunderf00t wasn’t invited! A lot of skeptics simply don’t appear in that roster. Maybe they all declined? I doubt it, to be honest. And keep in mind, this is conjecture. Short of them admitting this is the reason, I can only go by what it looks like.
So, is Anita likely to be disinvited from attending VidCon next year? Unlikely, because she has a personal connection with the Green Brothers (Anita and John Green pictured). In fact, Hank Green says that people who violated VidCon policy are given second chances on acase-by-case basis. Does this mean that Anita will be disinvited next year, or will she be given another chance, assuming her attack on Boogie2988 is true?
My firm belief is that had the roles been reversed, we would find Sargon having been kicked out almost immediately. In western culture, we tend to protect women more-so than men when it comes to harassment. We tend to assume men can take it, but that women are delicate flowers, and thus need extra protection. In some instances on both sides, they do. But equality being what it is, what you hypothetically would do to Sargon you should also do to Anita.
Some people have pointed out that extra security was requested in the auditorium, possibly by Anita (she’s seen using her phone when she realizes who is there, then security shows up). They also wonder why security didn’t remove the audience members to begin with if they were such a problem. Two reasons: first, the audience was almost empty save those three rows, and two the PR would have been absolute shit had they done so. Removing paying members when they have done nothing to warrant it would be a huge public fuckup.
Oh, and Patreon ended up doing an “investigation” into Sargon’s account, and two hours later was cleared of any wrongdoing.
My final point is purely conjecture, and on Sargon’s likely attendance next year. The VidCon post states that creators can be kicked out if “they have previously been told not to attend after intentionally endangering our attendees or being violent with our staff.” To date, Sargon has not had such a warning foisted upon him. However, I expect that when he shows up next year (after he’s paid for his ticket, airfare, room and board, etc.) assuming he does, he will be told he’s not welcome because of what happened. They will cite Anita’s outburst as proof positive of his “intentional harassment” and will decline him entry. As a private affair, they are more than able and legally allowed to do so. They will refund his money for the ticket (they can’t rightly keep his money after denying him entry), but he’ll still be out thousands on the other things. The PR will be in overdrive, because I expect a significant shitstorm brewing if and when it happens.
And a message to the Sargontourage: if you can be spotted as being with him, you’ll likely face the same punishment.
Speaking of legal, does Sargon have a defamation case? This is the United States, you can sue for damn near anything. I think, however, any defamation case would be farfetched, as he has no actual damages right now: his brand hasn’t been hurt. Perceived damages are a possibility, but it’s hard to defend them in court. At the moment, I don’t see much of anything, and he’d have to take a “wait and see” approach before engaging in this.
Additional Material:
1.) Sargon’s take on the matter
2.) Phil DeFranco’s take
So, Hank chastised her, but it didn’t mean a damn thing because he apologized after. This brings up the question: why? Why would he apologize, when the evidence shows her to be in the wrong? I think their response actually gives us an insight into why. The beginning of the post states the following when talking about people who are invited: “They just aren’t on our radar because we were looking in the wrong place, or they got very popular very recently.”
Speaking to that, I believe that they are intentionally ignoring members of what is dubbed the “skeptic community”, and those critical of third-wave feminism and social justice/intersectionality. This is shown by their list of creators invited, among them noted social justice ‘warriors’ such as Anita Sarkeesian, as well as Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasperian from The Young Turks. Notably, aside from Philip DeFranco there seems to be no one of significance that has been skeptical of feminism in particular as part of the featured creators (note: I did a cursory glance of the invited people, and no one struck me as being part of that clique). This has me asking why that is, of course. If it’s an ideological issue, then that’s understandable why they wouldn’t be asked to attend as featured creators. I mean, it’s not like Sargon’s channel popped up overnight and became popular this past week or something, he’s been known about for five or six years now. His channel has 655,516 subscribers, a number that I can only dream about (then again, if I was more consistent in putting out quality products…maybe one day!). MundaneMatt wasn’t invited, hell even someone like Thunderf00t wasn’t invited! A lot of skeptics simply don’t appear in that roster. Maybe they all declined? I doubt it, to be honest. And keep in mind, this is conjecture. Short of them admitting this is the reason, I can only go by what it looks like.
So, is Anita likely to be disinvited from attending VidCon next year? Unlikely, because she has a personal connection with the Green Brothers (Anita and John Green pictured). In fact, Hank Green says that people who violated VidCon policy are given second chances on acase-by-case basis. Does this mean that Anita will be disinvited next year, or will she be given another chance, assuming her attack on Boogie2988 is true?
My firm belief is that had the roles been reversed, we would find Sargon having been kicked out almost immediately. In western culture, we tend to protect women more-so than men when it comes to harassment. We tend to assume men can take it, but that women are delicate flowers, and thus need extra protection. In some instances on both sides, they do. But equality being what it is, what you hypothetically would do to Sargon you should also do to Anita.
Some people have pointed out that extra security was requested in the auditorium, possibly by Anita (she’s seen using her phone when she realizes who is there, then security shows up). They also wonder why security didn’t remove the audience members to begin with if they were such a problem. Two reasons: first, the audience was almost empty save those three rows, and two the PR would have been absolute shit had they done so. Removing paying members when they have done nothing to warrant it would be a huge public fuckup.
Oh, and Patreon ended up doing an “investigation” into Sargon’s account, and two hours later was cleared of any wrongdoing.
My final point is purely conjecture, and on Sargon’s likely attendance next year. The VidCon post states that creators can be kicked out if “they have previously been told not to attend after intentionally endangering our attendees or being violent with our staff.” To date, Sargon has not had such a warning foisted upon him. However, I expect that when he shows up next year (after he’s paid for his ticket, airfare, room and board, etc.) assuming he does, he will be told he’s not welcome because of what happened. They will cite Anita’s outburst as proof positive of his “intentional harassment” and will decline him entry. As a private affair, they are more than able and legally allowed to do so. They will refund his money for the ticket (they can’t rightly keep his money after denying him entry), but he’ll still be out thousands on the other things. The PR will be in overdrive, because I expect a significant shitstorm brewing if and when it happens.
And a message to the Sargontourage: if you can be spotted as being with him, you’ll likely face the same punishment.
Speaking of legal, does Sargon have a defamation case? This is the United States, you can sue for damn near anything. I think, however, any defamation case would be farfetched, as he has no actual damages right now: his brand hasn’t been hurt. Perceived damages are a possibility, but it’s hard to defend them in court. At the moment, I don’t see much of anything, and he’d have to take a “wait and see” approach before engaging in this.
Additional Material:
1.) Sargon’s take on the matter
2.) Phil DeFranco’s take